Re: The World News Thread

by Alfisti Thu 5 May 2011 - 17:23

Nachtsider wrote:Aren't the non-fundies supposed to be happy that he's dead?

Completely as far as I know...

...what I was more talking about was: what's the Islamic ruling on display of pictures of the dead or of corpses? I know part of the Muslim burial includes enshrouding of the dead quote: "out of respect for their privacy and dignity"...

Does Bin Laden deserve that... probably not. Is there a political move to be made and a moral high-ground to be taken? Absolutely.

ElfenMagix wrote:When the stupid extremists kill or wound an American Solider or a NATO Solider, AND they manage to get the body of that solider, that solider would be paraded about the city like some stupid trophy, put on the news and his/her photo shown on the TV News for days to come. I say, they do it to us, we do it to them!

Yeah, but their goal is to piss of the entire world. The US on the other hand gets enough bad press across the planet as it is, it doesn't need any extra help.

by Awinnell Thu 5 May 2011 - 18:38

the burial at sea is to stop his grave becoming a focal point for nutters,so giving them gory pictures that they can splash all over the Muslim world saying " this is what the West will do to your family !" is probably not a good idea

by **Nachtsider** Thu 5 May 2011 - 20:32

Awinnell wrote:the burial at sea is to stop his grave becoming a focal point for nutters,so giving them gory pictures that they can splash all over the Muslim world saying " this is what the West will do to your family !" is probably not a good idea

Then don't give the bugger a grave. Stuff him in some secret CIA morgue.

And as for 'this is what the West will do to your family', they don't have to fear unless they're terrorists. Well, are they?

Alfisti wrote:...what I was more talking about was: what's the Islamic ruling on display of pictures of the dead or of corpses? I know part of the Muslim burial includes enshrouding of the dead quote: "out of respect for their privacy and dignity"...

Does Bin Laden deserve that... probably not. Is there a political move to be made and a moral high-ground to be taken? Absolutely.

They didn't do that with Uday and Qusay Hussein. I don't understand the apparent double standard.

by Alfisti Thu 5 May 2011 - 21:07

Nachtsider wrote:And as for 'this is what the West will do to your family', they don't have to fear unless they're terrorists. Well, are they?

No, they don't. However it becomes a powerful recruiting tool for the extremists, particularly in those areas that may have limited exposure to a western viewpoint (in the same manner that we are more isolated from the Islamic news media). Suddenly what the crazies have been shouting all the time may be given just a little more weight, and it could well be enough to sway fence-sitters.

People get angry and want to go out and dish out a good arse-kicking when the bodies of dead soliders are paraded around. I imagine usurping Islamic tradition for a political ego boost would have a similar effect... it hits emotional triggers, which means rationality tends to get thrown out the window.

The majority will probably just shrug its shoulders and get on with whatever it was doing, but unfortunately it's the minority that tends to make the most noise.

Nachtsider wrote:They didn't do that with Uday and Qusay Hussein. I don't understand the apparent double standard.

The phrase "under new management" comes to mind. Razz

by Awinnell Fri 6 May 2011 - 2:48

apparently the Pakistanis are pissed at the US for not informing them about the raid and have ordered a reduction of US troops on its soil,to help prevent further violations of their sovereignty

by **Kiskaloo** Fri 6 May 2011 - 2:53

Awinnell wrote:apparently the Pakistanis are pissed at the US for not informing them about the raid and have ordered a reduction of US troops on its soil,to help prevent further violations of their sovereignty

They're really pissed they couldn't warn OBL we were coming.

But hey, in addition to reducing our troops, I say reduce the billions we give them each year, too. Razz

by Officer_Charon Fri 6 May 2011 - 2:57

Kiskaloo wrote:
Awinnell wrote:apparently the Pakistanis are pissed at the US for not informing them about the raid and have ordered a reduction of US troops on its soil,to help prevent further violations of their sovereignty

They're really pissed they couldn't warn OBL we were coming.

But hey, in addition to reducing our troops, I say reduce the billions we give them each year, too.

So very, very this. Just sayin'...

by **Nachtsider** Fri 6 May 2011 - 4:08

Awinnell wrote:apparently the Pakistanis are pissed at the US for not informing them about the raid and have ordered a reduction of US troops on its soil,to help prevent further violations of their sovereignty

You mean violations of the sovereignty they share with al-Qaeda?

Nothing of value was lost.

by Professor Voodoo Fri 6 May 2011 - 4:20

Devil's Advocate Position:
Trouble is, Pakistan has nukes. Sure the government is filled with epic levels of corruption, nobody doubts that...but if the west doesn't help prop up these crooks and help them hold onto their tenuous grip on power the governemnt might tip in favor of the hard-core right wing fundamentalists. They they would control those nuclear weapons.

by **Kiskaloo** Sat 7 May 2011 - 16:02

The Scottish National Party won an outright majority in elections to the Scottish Parliament and First Minister Alex Salmond stated he intends to submit a referendum to return Scotland to an independent state (as it was before the Acts of Union 1707).

British Prime Minister David Cameron signaled he would not have the Parliament of the United Kingdom amend the Scotland Act 1998 to prevent such a referendum from happening.

by Five_X Sun 8 May 2011 - 3:37

A little late, but what about them Stephen Harpers and their majorities?

Stupid, stupid first-past-the-post system.

by ChaosKin640 Sun 8 May 2011 - 4:30

All I can say is, after all of the bitching and whining he's been doing the past 4 years, Harper damn well better not fuck things up. I am, however, happy for Layton and the NDP winning the Official Opposition. It's about time we had a change from the same old Conservative-Liberal two-horse race.

by Robert Frazer Sun 8 May 2011 - 6:26

Kiskaloo wrote:The Scottish National Party won an outright majority in elections to the Scottish Parliament and First Minister Alex Salmond stated he intends to submit a referendum to return Scotland to an independent state (as it was before the Acts of Union 1707).

British Prime Minister David Cameron signaled he would not have the Parliament of the United Kingdom amend the Scotland Act 1998 to prevent such a referendum from happening.

Alex Salmond is an odious, self-obsessed grandstander with delusions of becoming El Presidenté of his very own glorious People's Democratic Republic of Scotland. However, in a way, this election could be a good thing. Most Scots vote for the SNP more because of its leftwing policies than strictly because of its nationalism - so once the SNP holds a referendum, and loses it, hopefully that will knock the wind out of its sails.

by Awinnell Sun 8 May 2011 - 6:34

Scotland can only support itself due to the unequal amount of cash per head of population given to them by westminster,if they become independent then they will soon be unable to supply the free university places the free medical prescriptions etc,the north sea oil/gas money is already running out as the uk which was an exporter of LPG is now an importer !

by **Kiskaloo** Sun 8 May 2011 - 12:06

Robert Frazer wrote:
Kiskaloo wrote:The Scottish National Party won an outright majority in elections to the Scottish Parliament and First Minister Alex Salmond stated he intends to submit a referendum to return Scotland to an independent state (as it was before the Acts of Union 1707).

British Prime Minister David Cameron signaled he would not have the Parliament of the United Kingdom amend the Scotland Act 1998 to prevent such a referendum from happening.

Alex Salmond is an odious, self-obsessed grandstander with delusions of becoming El Presidenté of his very own glorious People's Democratic Republic of Scotland. However, in a way, this election could be a good thing. Most Scots vote for the SNP more because of its leftwing policies than strictly because of its nationalism - so once the SNP holds a referendum, and loses it, hopefully that will knock the wind out of its sails.

Sounds pretty much like the Parti Québécois in Canada.

by ChaosKin640 Sun 8 May 2011 - 15:04

Sounds pretty much like the Parti Québécois in Canada.

Yeah, pretty much. The Bloc has been trying to push for seperation and independence for years, despite having failed every single referendum they ever held on the subject. I am so glad they got their asses handed to them in this election. They no longer have enough seats in Parliment to even be considered an official political party.

by **Nachtsider** Thu 12 May 2011 - 12:11

http://www.galacticempiretimes.com/2011/05/09/galaxy/outer-rim/obi-wan-kenobi-is-killed.html

by **Kiskaloo** Thu 12 May 2011 - 13:19

So evidently much of Rome took the day off yesterday due to fear the Eternal City would be hit with a major earthquake on that date, as predicted in 1915 by a self-styled seismologist who passed away three decades ago.

Doh!

(The actual earthquake that morning in Lorca, Spain, evidently didn't help matters, either. )

by **ElfenMagix** Thu 12 May 2011 - 16:08

Nachtsider wrote:http://www.galacticempiretimes.com/2011/05/09/galaxy/outer-rim/obi-wan-kenobi-is-killed.html

Seened it, loved it...
Unless I see a body, I will not believe it! LOL!

by **ElfenMagix** Thu 12 May 2011 - 16:13

Kiskaloo wrote:So evidently much of Rome took the day off yesterday due to fear the Eternal City would be hit with a major earthquake on that date, as predicted in 1915 by a self-styled seismologist who passed away three decades ago.

(The actual earthquake that morning in Lorca, Spain, evidently didn't help matters, either. )

And Sicily's Mt. Edna erupted today... So he was not that far off, actually.
http://news.yahoo.com/video/world-15749633/raw-video-mount-etna-erupts-25208784#video=25208784

by theprodigalson Thu 12 May 2011 - 16:28

I love how the liberal rag GET keeps referring our Defense Star as the "Death Star". Take that propaganda back to Courescant, Nerfherder!!!

Best. Comment. Ever.

by TTIO Thu 12 May 2011 - 16:30

Nachtsider wrote:http://www.galacticempiretimes.com/2011/05/09/galaxy/outer-rim/obi-wan-kenobi-is-killed.html

Love the spam in the comments, "Droids 15% off!" Very Happy

by Guest Thu 12 May 2011 - 19:47

This video is look weird news when naked suspect shot the SWAT robot with the AK-47 in West Melbourne, Florida.

Spoiler:

by MP5 Tue 17 May 2011 - 0:14

So apparently, Pole Dancing might be tested out as an event at the 2012 Olympics--

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2010-02-23/entertainment/27057150_1_pole-dancing-pole-dance-federation-olympic-recognition

I wonder how many performances will be interrupted by cash raining onto the performance area....

by Professor Voodoo Tue 17 May 2011 - 0:24

MP5 wrote:So apparently, Pole Dancing might be tested out as an event at the 2012 Olympics--

Dear IOC;
PLEASE do not introduce weight categories like they do in wrestling.

If there were weight categories the US could easily dominate the upper ones. What other nation has 150+kg pole dancers?

I wonder how many performances will be interrupted by cash raining onto the performance area....

Olympic athletes are supposed to be amateurs...would accepting the money make them professionals and hence, disqualified?

by **Kiskaloo** Tue 17 May 2011 - 2:15

Lewis Black wrote:
Is oral sex adultery? Yes! That's the end of the fucking argument. There's nothing to discuss. If curling is an Olympic sport, then oral sex is adultery. And oral sex should be an Olympic sport. I would like to see that. Ice skating, then blowjobs. I certainly would stay through whatever commercials they had. I think oral sex should be an Olympic sport because it's harder than curling ever has been. And if you're any good at it, you deserve a medal.

From The White Album (2000)

by ChaosKin640 Tue 17 May 2011 - 4:36

would accepting the money make them professionals and hence, disqualified?

I'm pretty sure that stipulation was removed years ago because it discriminates against athletes wanting to actually make a decent living off of their sport between Olympic years. As far as the Winter Olympics are concerned, I know it has. At least 75% of the players on the Olympic hockey teams are all pulled directly from the NHL, after all.

by **Kiskaloo** Fri 20 May 2011 - 17:28

Since you folks are the first to experience Saturday, 21 May, how's The Rapture going, Leeni, Alfisti and Nacht?

I decided to go out in style, so I'm in Barcelona getting stuffed and hammered at Bestiary. Hiccup!

by **Nachtsider** Fri 20 May 2011 - 17:33

Had one of the most beautiful sunrises I've ever seen - the sun, first a ephemeral band of pink on the darkened horizon, gradually burst forth in all its blazing, golden glory.

Unfortunately, it's still cold as all hell and I'm freezing my ass off in this igloo of an apartment.

by Nuke is Good Fri 20 May 2011 - 17:42

R.I.P. Macho Man Randy Savage, wrestler, rapper, Slim Jim connoisseur

A part of what made 80's wrestling great and also a very unique figure in general is gone.

RIP Macho Man.

by **boomer_gonz** Fri 20 May 2011 - 18:46

The Macho Man is gone?

Cry

by **Nachtsider** Fri 20 May 2011 - 18:48

Slim Jims have lost their flavor, neon fades to grey. The Hulkster's macho savior has gone from us today. Lament our fallen hero, his great deeds remembered still. His bod may no longer wrestle, but in our hearts, he always will.

'Til we meet again, Macho Man. Thank you for years of entertainment and giving us one of the greatest matches of all time in Wrestlemania III.

by Officer_Charon Fri 20 May 2011 - 19:02

I heard this news before coming in to work today...

Everything since then has been but bitter ashes. I keep getting choked up, every time I see someone else posting it as their Facebook status...

RIP Macho Man

by Alfisti Fri 20 May 2011 - 19:35

Kiskaloo wrote:Since you folks are the first to experience Saturday, 21 May, how's The Rapture going, Leeni, Alfisti and Nacht?

I decided to go out in style, so I'm in Barcelona getting stuffed and hammered at Bestiary.

dammit, I knew I was forgetting something...

... guess I'll just have to get hammered on some of this Sicilian wine that arrived the other day.

by Awinnell Sat 21 May 2011 - 6:32

the worlds not going to end any time soon ,after all Nostradamus has predictions until 4000 ad !

by Alfisti Sat 21 May 2011 - 7:29

Awinnell wrote:tthe worlds not going to end any time soon ,after all Nostrdamus has predictions until 4000 ad !

Stop ruining our fun.

by Guest Sat 21 May 2011 - 12:59

Here is a live video feed of the Rapture in NYC.

http://gawkernet.com/rapture/rapturelive.html

Beautiful, isn't it?

by Awinnell Sat 21 May 2011 - 19:18

Alfisti wrote:
Awinnell wrote:tthe worlds not going to end any time soon ,after all Nostrdamus has predictions until 4000 ad !
Stop ruining our fun.

the guy who predicted thats had a few goes at it,never been right yet,on top of which he needs to read his own Good Book,

But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. Take heed, keep on the alert; for you do not know when the appointed time is.
–Mark 13:32-33

http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2011/05/harold-camping-may-21-rapture-deceiving-the-biblically-ignorant/

by **Kiskaloo** Mon 23 May 2011 - 12:59

In these troubled times, it's good to know that...

Canada's Maple Syrup Reactors Are Safe

by Awinnell Sun 5 Jun 2011 - 15:25

Better check your Facebook settings before posting a party invitation online.

A teenage girl in Germany who forgot to mark her birthday invitation as private on Facebook fled her own party when more than 1,500 guests showed up and around 100 police officers, some on horses, were needed to keep the crowd under control.

Eleven people were temporarily detained, one police officer was injured, dozens of girls wearing flip-flops cut their feet on broken glass and firefighters had to extinguish two small fires at the 16th birthday party in Hamburg, police spokesman Mirko Streiber said. The birthday girl, identified only as Thessa, went into hiding, Streiber said, but "nonetheless the party was a hit".

Thessa had initially only wanted to ask some friends over to her home in Hamburg-Bramfeld when she posted her invitation on Facebook, but mistakenly she published it so that everyone on Facebook could see it.

The invitation quickly went viral, and some 15,000 people confirmed online they would come to the party - without even knowing the girl, weekly paper Bild am Sonntag reported.

When Thessa's parents found out, they made their daughter cancel the party, informed police and hired a private security service to protect their home on Friday night. Despite public announcements in Hamburg that the party had been cancelled, some 1,500 teenagers and young adults showed up on the street in front of Thessa's home,

"We had cordoned off the house, some 100 police were on the ground, four of them on horses - but that did not keep the kids from celebrating," Streiber said.
Some revellers held up signs asking "Where is Thessa?" others brought birthday presents and homemade cake, there was lots of alcohol and the crowd chanted again and again, "Thessa, celebrating a birthday is not a crime," - in obvious relation to the massive police presence, Bild reported.

The police officer was injured when he tried to keep a party reveller from breaking off the Mercedes-Benz logo of his patrol car. "It was sheer insanity but mostly peaceful," Streiber summed up the night with a laugh.

As for Thessa - she was nowhere to be seen. Police confirmed she "was not at home that night" and Bild reported that she celebrated quietly with her grandparents at an undisclosed location.

by **Nachtsider** Sun 5 Jun 2011 - 15:43

Skins parties. Absolute rollicking fun.

by Professor Voodoo Sun 5 Jun 2011 - 18:43

Awinnell wrote:Better check your Facebook settings before posting a party invitation online.

A teenage girl in Germany who forgot to mark her birthday invitation as private on Facebook fled her own party when more than 1,500 guests showed up and around 100 police officers, some on horses, were needed to keep the crowd under control.

Could have been a lot worse...

metro.co.uk May 2007 wrote:
Annie Lennox's House Trashed
The Eurythmics vocalist's £2m former family home was trashed when 100 revelers turned up at her 16-year-old daughter Lola's party in north London.
In happier times: Annie Lennox

Lola had organised the bash while her film producer father Uri Fruchtmann -- Lennox's ex-husband -- was away.
But the email which was meant to be seen by just 30 school friends ended up circulating on social networking sites such as MySpace and more than a hundred youngsters forced entry.
Party-goers daubed graffiti on walls, broke pictures and lampshades, tore apart books, urinated and vomited on carpets, flooded the kitchen and had a pitch battle in the garden.

The popstar, 52, who divorced from Uri in 2000, has been hit with a hefty repair bill as she agreed to share the cost of the disaster.

An insider said: 'Lola's friends were totally outnumbered and the gate-crashers would not leave. The front door was locked shut to make sure no one else could get in, but the ones outside actually rammed it in, breaking its hinges.'

'There was a fight in the garden, someone had deliberately filled the sink with detergent and let it run over so it flood the place. There was vomit on the stairs, and cigarette burns on the carpets, cans and bottles strewn inside and out. The place was a like a bombsite.

'Thankfully Lola at least had the foresight had taken many of the more expensive pictures off the walls and the put the more valuable ornaments out of the way before the party.'

Eventually Lola's girlfriends called the police - as did the next door neighbours - and they were all turned out onto the street at about midnight.

The havoc wreaked at young Lola Lennox-Fruchtman's house wasn't the first time in recent weeks that a home had been wrecked by teenagers in a party advertised on the Internet.

An estimated 200 yobs ran amok at the detached property in Croydon, south London, last month, causing £30,000 of damage after it was advertised on MySpace.

A few days before that a teenager was arrested on suspicion of criminal damage after her family's £230,000 home near Sunderland was wrecked during a 'Skins' party advertised on the social networking site.

Lola is said to be grounded 'indefinitely'.

Kara: Hmmm...Michele's apartment in Rome would be a great place for a party.

Laine: A lot of fratelli are deployed right now...how do we get the word out?

Britney: I know! Put it up on your Facebook page!

Claes: Have we learned nothing?!?!?

by Tulip Fri 10 Jun 2011 - 8:25

hah holy shit I live in that town where it happened I wasn't there but I've heard some dudes had printed "happy bday thessa" shirts and so on.
epic birthday rush The World News Thread - Page 6 7278

by **Nachtsider** Wed 22 Jun 2011 - 7:26

http://au.lifestyle.yahoo.com/health/wellbeing/article/-/9688480/patients-call-nurse-with-tambourine/

I lol'd. Hard.

by Alfisti Thu 23 Jun 2011 - 4:32

Nachtsider wrote:http://au.lifestyle.yahoo.com/health/wellbeing/article/-/9688480/patients-call-nurse-with-tambourine/

I lol'd. Hard.

Hey Mr. Tambourine man, play a song for me...

by **Kiskaloo** Wed 29 Jun 2011 - 21:52

Kara addresses the other teenage Generation Two Girls:

"Ladies, this summer vacation we must redouble our efforts."

by Professor Voodoo Wed 29 Jun 2011 - 22:31

Kiskaloo wrote:Kara addresses the other teenage Generation Two Girls:

"Ladies, this summer vacation we must redouble our efforts."

If Massa or Alonso manages to turn Ferrari's luck around and snatch the World Championship from Vettel this year I expect a celebration of at least this magnitude from Michele & Kara.

by Alfisti Wed 29 Jun 2011 - 23:29

Kiskaloo wrote:Kara addresses the other teenage Generation Two Girls:

"Ladies, this summer vacation we must redouble our efforts."

Michele: Weird, my AmEx pocket feels all tingly.

by **Kiskaloo** Fri 8 Jul 2011 - 11:33

The final Space Transportation System mission - STS-135 - has successfully lifted off from the Kennedy Space Center and is on her way to orbit.

by Awinnell Fri 8 Jul 2011 - 13:14

Kiskaloo wrote:The final Space Transportation System mission - STS-135 - has successfully lifted off from the Kennedy Space Center and is on her way to orbit.

so, with no replacement on the cards, the US will have to rely on the Russians for its manned space flight now ?

by Officer_Charon Fri 8 Jul 2011 - 13:24

Yes. And tell me if THAT don't chap my ass something serious! bang head

by Awinnell Fri 8 Jul 2011 - 13:33

one minute your driving a 'vette, next a Lada ! The World News Thread - Page 6 817766

by **Kiskaloo** Fri 8 Jul 2011 - 17:09

Awinnell wrote:
Kiskaloo wrote:The final Space Transportation System mission - STS-135 - has successfully lifted off from the Kennedy Space Center and is on her way to orbit.

so, with no replacement on the cards, the US will have to rely on the Russians for its manned space flight now ?

For a bit, yes. We are developing private manned spacecraft (Falcon seems to be the farthest along).

Personally, I'm not a big fan of manned spaceflight. I'd much rather sink the half-billion per shuttle launch into robotic probes and better telescopes.

by Alfisti Fri 8 Jul 2011 - 21:32

Kiskaloo wrote:For a bit, yes. We are developing private manned spacecraft (Falcon seems to be the farthest along).

Personally, I'm not a big fan of manned spaceflight. I'd much rather sink the half-billion per shuttle launch into robotic probes and better telescopes.

To be completely honest, I see manned space-travel, and for that matter exploration, becoming more and more the realm of commercial enterprise. It's in it's infancy right now of course (pay to go up with the Russians, Virgin Galactic), but eventually the cost of getting up there will come down and someone will realise they can turn a profit putting soft squishy humans up there or mining asteroids or something.

Personally, I think the biggest hurdle to funding/public opinion for space exploration is that we LET. SPACE. GET. BORING. 99.9% of the population really doesn't care about growing crystals in zero gravity. So get back to hitting golf-balls on the moon, inventing ray-guns and telling everyone that space is like it was in Barbarella...

The World News Thread - Page 6 Barbarella_Cover_art

The World News Thread - Page 6 Barbarella_Cover_art

Funding issues SOLVED. Razz

by Professor Voodoo Sun 17 Jul 2011 - 18:12

The marathon final of the Women's World Cup has finally ended;

Spoiler:

by Robert Frazer Sun 17 Jul 2011 - 19:10

Personally, I think the biggest hurdle to funding/public opinion for space exploration is that we LET. SPACE. GET. BORING. 99.9% of the population really doesn't care about growing crystals in zero gravity. So get back to hitting golf-balls on the moon, inventing ray-guns and telling everyone that space is like it was in Barbarella...

I read the Ellis/Weston miniseries Ministry of Space.

Then I put my head into my pillow and cry until the tears won't come anymore.

by Alfisti Mon 18 Jul 2011 - 3:38

Robert Frazer wrote:I read the Ellis/Weston miniseries Ministry of Space.

Then I put my head into my pillow and cry until the tears won't come anymore.

*looks it up on Wikipedia*

This, I think I need to read.

by **Kiskaloo** Mon 18 Jul 2011 - 13:16

If only...

by Awinnell Fri 22 Jul 2011 - 16:07

More than 20 people are feared dead after a gunman dressed as a policeman opened fire at a youth camp outside Oslo.

The deadly attack on the island of Utoya followed a terror bomb blast in government buildings in the Norwegian capital which left seven people dead and at least 15 others injured.

Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg told Norwegian broadcaster NRK: "Co-workers have lost their lives... it's frightening. That's not how we want things in our country.

"But it's important that we don't let ourselves be scared. Because the purpose of that kind of violence is to create fear."

He said there are unconfirmed reports of dead and injured at the Labour Party youth camp shooting in Utoya though details are still sketchy.

But an eyewitness told NRK he saw more than 80 bodies after the camp shooting, on the shore and in the water. It is understood panicked teenagers had tried to flee the island by swimming as the gunman opened fire.

WTF is going on in Norway ?

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