Estrogen

by restonme Fri 5 Jul 2013 - 21:20

for the sake of my story can we Keep out Estrogen.
my cyborg Needs it to show time and age throughout the story.

by **Kiskaloo** Fri 5 Jul 2013 - 21:26

restonme wrote:for the sake of my story can we Keep out Estrogen. my cyborg Needs it to show time and age throughout the story.

You are free to do what you want within your own fiction.

Personally, I think the comment in the ADV translation that Claes was taking estrogen pills was something they just made up. There is no such reference on that page in the Japanese tankōbon and I don't recall a footnotes page that would reference it, either.

by **ElfenMagix** Fri 5 Jul 2013 - 21:29

The Estrogren is to keep the girls from getting pregnant, for certain Calcium metabolism, to keep growing facial hair and a deepen voice from an over stressed Adrenal Gland producing Testosterone.

by restonme Fri 5 Jul 2013 - 23:51

now i think i can understand the estrogen but can someone please specify what types of immunodeppresents. also i think that opiates could be necessary because if they are working with technology as advances as we think, i think they could permanatlay "deactivate" the nerve cells by burning them or using an iv to release a chemical that would naturally shut down nerve cells without the addictiveness or the constant Need for it.

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by restonme Sat 6 Jul 2013 - 4:27

does anybody know of a Website where i can try to Isolate a compund based on what it can do to the human body or mind. i´ve been looking for a database with Information to "develop" a compound like that used in gunslinger Girl and one that i would use ideally.

by Guest Sun 7 Jul 2013 - 7:59

You could try web md or one of the medical sights bust most of the ones you'd want need subscriptions to see the good stuff and might be more scientific then you'd like (I don't know your background so the extent of this problem is up for debate)

by Il Direttore Sun 7 Jul 2013 - 11:28

restonme wrote:does anybody know of a Website where i can try to Isolate a compund based on what it can do to the human body or mind. i´ve been looking for a database with Information to "develop" a compound like that used in gunslinger Girl and one that i would use ideally.

If this is for a fic or an OC, I would stop now and not worry about it. The narrative use of the conditioning drug does not revolve around the specific compounds, but rather its effects. If you're spending a lot of time discussing the gritty details, you're probably doing it wrong.

by **Nachtsider** Sun 7 Jul 2013 - 18:19

restonme wrote:does anybody know of a Website where i can try to Isolate a compund based on what it can do to the human body or mind. i´ve been looking for a database with Information to "develop" a compound like that used in gunslinger Girl and one that i would use ideally.

Just wing it, dude. A fanfic doesn't require that level of detail.

by maverick375 Sun 7 Jul 2013 - 22:05

The secret ingredient in the conditioning meds? It's pretty obvious when you think about it.

PEZ. Strawberry flavored PEZ.

by **ElfenMagix** Sun 7 Jul 2013 - 22:13

by maverick375 Sun 7 Jul 2013 - 23:07

And the nice thing is that you can use chalk as a placebo and no one will notice.

by restonme Mon 8 Jul 2013 - 2:04

El Conservatore wrote:
restonme wrote:does anybody know of a Website where i can try to Isolate a compund based on what it can do to the human body or mind. i´ve been looking for a database with Information to "develop" a compound like that used in gunslinger Girl and one that i would use ideally.

If this is for a fic or an OC, I would stop now and not worry about it. The narrative use of the conditioning drug does not revolve around the specific compounds, but rather its effects. If you're spending a lot of time discussing the gritty details, you're probably doing it wrong.

it's actually not. i'm just a science geek,(and like most others) i would like to have one for myself. i try to find out what components would be absolutely necessary in real life so that if i'm allowed to take part in such a process (i'm in America so we probably wouldn't wipe the memories. but use surgery or hypnosis to "hide" them.) i would be able to help more.

by Kurosaka "Ery" Erika Mon 8 Jul 2013 - 5:55

i realized something, after reading the manga all over again from the tart to the end, i realized something; i could see they could feel the pain, but they didn't know how to express it. maybe it's something inside the 'cocktail' that affect's their personal order.
Razz

by Guest Tue 9 Jul 2013 - 3:51

restonme wrote:
El Conservatore wrote:
restonme wrote:does anybody know of a Website where i can try to Isolate a compund based on what it can do to the human body or mind. i´ve been looking for a database with Information to "develop" a compound like that used in gunslinger Girl and one that i would use ideally.

If this is for a fic or an OC, I would stop now and not worry about it. The narrative use of the conditioning drug does not revolve around the specific compounds, but rather its effects. If you're spending a lot of time discussing the gritty details, you're probably doing it wrong.

it's actually not. i'm just a science geek,(and like most others) i would like to have one for myself. i try to find out what components would be absolutely necessary in real life so that if i'm allowed to take part in such a process (i'm in America so we probably wouldn't wipe the memories. but use surgery or hypnosis to "hide" them.) i would be able to help more.

If you really are that interested there was an article in science or scientific American I don't remember which that was discussing a new class of drugs for PTSD patients that could potentially deaden memory recall or block a memory entirely. The goal is basically to remove or reduce the memories affecting PTSD patients to help ease their symptoms, when I get back from vacation ill see if I still have the article. I pulled it to use with my anatomy class I was teaching at the time.

by restonme Thu 11 Jul 2013 - 3:23

crazyidiot78 wrote:
If you really are that interested there was an article in science or scientific American I don't remember which that was discussing a new class of drugs for PTSD patients that could potentially deaden memory recall or block a memory entirely. The goal is basically to remove or reduce the memories affecting PTSD patients to help ease their symptoms, when I get back from vacation ill see if I still have the article. I pulled it to use with my anatomy class I was teaching at the time.

thanks. that does sound promising for what I had in mind and even better for the Gunslinger Girl version if it had a side-effect of alseimers desease. (all I know about it so far is that it causes memory loss)

Full of Win

by NicoleRay Sat 22 Apr 2023 - 2:52

sát sao Jacen wrote:Tôi đã nói chuyện với CrazyIdiot78 ngày hôm qua và chúng tôi thảo luận về các tác dụng phụ có thể xảy ra của điều khiển học và việc thiếu cocktail điều hòa.

Vì vậy, chúng tôi bắt đầu nghĩ về các thành phần, đây là những gì chúng tôi nghĩ ra cho loại cocktail điên rồ.

Thủy ngân - Chất bảo quản và thành phần cuối cùng giết chết đối tượng.
Benzodizapans – Thuốc ức chế miễn
dịch chống trầm cảm – Thuốc chống đào thải để cơ thể không từ chối điều khiển học
Amphetmines – Để gây ra sự tập trung trong cơ thể.
Thuốc phiện – Thành phần gây nghiện chính cũng như làm giảm khả năng cảm thấy đau.
– để ngăn chặn sự phát triển của các cô gái

Suy nghĩ của bạn?

Ngoài ra, việc xóa ký ức và cấy các ký ức khác được thực hiện thông qua đèn nhấp nháy nhanh từ một thiết bị trông giống như hệ thống trò chơi Visual Boy cũ.

Điều quan trọng cần lưu ý là thuốc điều hòa và các thành phần của chúng là một khái niệm hư cấu trong bối cảnh cuộc trò chuyện mà bạn đã đề cập. Trên thực tế, không có thứ gọi là "cocktail điều hòa" được sử dụng cùng với điều khiển học.

by Thescarredman Sun 23 Apr 2023 - 19:34

This is understood. The members are just speculating for entertainment. Like the thread where they speculate about the precise location of the SWA compound as if it was a real place.

I concern myself more with the "Conditioning drug's" effects in an attempt to produce a consistent and predictable description of how it affects its users. In my imagination and in my fiction, I see it as a drug that primarily stifles the body's rejection response - to artificial grafts and implants of the sort used by Section 2, at least - but it also seems to make its users extremely susceptible to suggestion. I posit that this is why the girls are given a single individual to focus their attention on, else they would be prone to believing, and obeying, whoever they last spoke to.

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