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Post by Angiegarde Sun 20 Jan 2008 - 20:00

Something that I've always wondered is why Rico doesn't wear dresses more often? She looks cute in them as seen in her maid outfit in volume 1/episode 3 and in her opera outfit in volume 4.


It is because Jean wants her to wear clothing that's more efficent in combat?


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Post by Nachtsider Sun 20 Jan 2008 - 20:02

Your 'practical combat clothing' theory is one that makes sense, Ryan. An additional reason might be that Jean doesn't want to be painfully reminded of Enrika.
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Post by ElfenMagix Mon 21 Jan 2008 - 0:20

Considering that she in a hospital for 11 of her 13 years, the most that she could have worn in underwear and pajamas. In the least- naked under a hospital gown. No room for dresses here.
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Post by Wileama Mon 21 Jan 2008 - 2:02

Ditto to what Natchsider. Also it cuts down on the Loli when Rico does awesome kicks.
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Post by Nachtsider Mon 21 Jan 2008 - 2:14

Funny about that last point, though, Wile - you'd think Yu would of wanted to max out the Lolita factor.
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Post by LoC978 Mon 21 Jan 2008 - 4:13

still, Yu tries not to ditch reality completely.
...and I get the feeling that the less Jean sees Rico as a female, the easier a time he has detaching himself from her pain during training/missions/et cetera.
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Post by Danjo3 Mon 21 Jan 2008 - 4:36

After seeing Jean and Rico in Vol.9, there’s a good chance that we may see a more pampered Rico in the future - by Jean standards anyway.
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Post by LoC978 Mon 21 Jan 2008 - 4:41

...that would fit the changing feel of the series, as well.
*sigh* Rico joins the ranks of lolicon fodder... christ, I hope she shoots the first one to make a move...
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Post by Guest Mon 21 Jan 2008 - 11:06

That depends on Jean's tastes. Although he seems to be a dress person (Opera mission).

It also depends on Jean's approach to this newfound pampering. If he just does it to please himself then he'd put her in a dress, but that seems unlikely because of both the unplesant recognition of his sister, and because he's a very practical person, so he is more likely to simply ask Rico whether there is anything that she want's. Somehow I don't think clothing would be the thing she'd ask for if given the chance. Then there is the debate whether she'd prefer a dress...

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Post by Wileama Mon 21 Jan 2008 - 11:54

What time of the month we think Triela's period occurs on.

At least last I checked we hadn't discussed that particular topic....
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Post by Guest Mon 21 Jan 2008 - 12:01

Wileama wrote:What time of the month we think Triela's period occurs on.

At least last I checked we hadn't discussed that particular topic....

I guess we have chewed and spat and chewed again just about every possible and impossible topic, but its fun so let us continue this fine mission of ours.

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Post by Tommygunner70 Mon 21 Jan 2008 - 15:29

Wileama wrote:What time of the month we think Triela's period occurs on.

Oh boy... why do we allready tend to skip to mature content...

as we say in holland: De stemming stijgt en het niveau daalt.
In english: The mood Rises, and the level plunges.
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Post by Danjo3 Mon 21 Jan 2008 - 17:40

It’s a known fact that when women live together, whether it be in a home or dormitory setting, they start to menstruate in sync. I’m not sure how many of the girls have their period, but I’d guess that there’s one week out of the month that really sucks for all of the handlers.Why Rico doesn't wear dresses Icon_cry
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Post by Nachtsider Mon 21 Jan 2008 - 18:53

Triela's periods probably come at the beginning of every month. It happens that way for most women.
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Post by Wileama Mon 21 Jan 2008 - 21:56

You know I was expecting some emoticons, and people to move on. Clearly I should be more careful about what I say.

Now then, clearly we lack enough evidence to reconstruct Triela's menstrual cycle to the point where we can say what time of month. It's even possible part of the issue is that she menstruates on an irregular schedule.

According to wikipedia the average for girls is 12, with a spread of four years in either direction being normal. So the girls biologically speaking most of the girls are on the young side of the scale, but still a possibility. That does lead me to wonder though. How does Puberty work in a cybrog?

I very much doubt the agency has worked out how to stop the brain from commanding the body from growing. Even if they could, I doubt they stop the brain from running puberty. Several changes also occur in the brain that are helpful/important. So I'm wondering how all these various hormones the brain throws out effects the body.

I mean thing about it the brain is telling the body to grow up, and I don't think the body can. How would the brain react to that? Would it just start pumping out more growth hormone, or not notice. I can't imagine there aren't some ill effects. Perhaps this is the reason Triela's periods are so screwed up. It might also explain why Henrietta no longer has a uterus. It may have become standard practice to have them removed due to increased risk of menstrual problems.

Then again that would require the agency to be aware of the problem. Hilshire certainly didn't seem to know, but I figure the doctors must. Thoughts?
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Post by Nachtsider Mon 21 Jan 2008 - 22:03

I still think Henrietta's uterus was removed by the killer of her family, here.
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Post by Guest Mon 21 Jan 2008 - 22:27

??? What ???

You mean that litterally? ... I really can't imagine (and don't want to) how exactly and why he would do that.

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Post by Guest Mon 21 Jan 2008 - 22:57

boy, oh boy, where to start...

You got to suspend lots of disbelief when a bunch of guys are given the task of training/raising/'maintaining' a bunch of little girls. I mean, there are really issues that we guys would have never even imagined. For example, unless you're a mom, have taken any pediatric class, or have ESP, I won't expect you to know the whole "wipe from front to back." This is done due to the proximities of the two...ahem..orifices and the short urethra. As a result, a girl, esp. one who's still growing up is very prone to UTI (urinary tract infection). Yeah, imagine that....how do the (male) doctors or even the handlers teach the girls that. Wipe front to back. Not repeatedly, but once, then throw the paper towel. Repeat with a new one. (guys don't get this problem, but in exchange of that longer urethra, they got 'plumbing' problem later on in life)

So yeah, to make the scenario works, not only the doctors, but the handlers should be made aware of all these feminine issues. I figure it must have come in the 'manual' at the beginning. I'd also venture to say that in the manual it explains that due to body (hormonal) changes at that age, the girls will be very modest so make sure to 'approach' the topic carefully. Hence, I'd guess that Hillshire knew the problem all along, but decided (per the manual instruction) leaving the young lady alone was best for all aka. going with the usual "nan demo nai" or nevermind.

Back to the topic, I think Rico has internalize Jean's take on her look aka. introjection or integrating the beliefs and values of another individual into one's own ego structure. For example,in response to Milo's inquiry on her name, she thought it sounds boyish and cool. I'm willing to bet that's how she sees herself in boy clothing as well, esp. since that allows her to move freely and be useful to Jean, her priority in life.


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Post by Nachtsider Mon 21 Jan 2008 - 22:59

3klicks wrote:??? What ???

You mean that litterally? ... I really can't imagine (and don't want to) how exactly and why he would do that.

With a very sharp knife, and for the purpose of satisfying his sick fetish for human organs - or maybe for use in a perverse ritual of sorts.

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Post by Guest Mon 21 Jan 2008 - 23:25

@Wasyhoo: That's one complicated users manual. LOL

Jean's would be one thing, but her being used to the hospital pijamas (consisting of looose pants and shirt), and the fact that she can move around more freely (and that's what she loves to do) would also factor in.

Ironically, Triela is actually the only one we have never seen in a dress.

@Nachtsider: People get off on the strangest things. One quick look around the internet and you start thinking that it's you who are weird.

Anyway, I think Henrietta said "they removed that part" or somehting along those lines that suggests that it was the doctors. Have no proof though. Too lazy to look it up.

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Post by ElfenMagix Mon 21 Jan 2008 - 23:45

Wileama wrote:What time of the month we think Triela's period occurs on.

At least last I checked we hadn't discussed that particular topic....
Since Christmas is on 12/25, and she had it just before and during then (episode 3- Bambola), that one can say that its within the last week of the month.

But she stated that it was irregular, so there is no fixed pattern for her until her system regulates itself out when she is older.
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Post by ElfenMagix Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 0:06

Nachtsider wrote:I still think Henrietta's uterus was removed by the killer of her family, here.
I tend to think the same thing. The killer(s) mascred the whole family. Depending on the translation- its either mascred or killed and dismembered (the funation English DVD differs from the translated stuff on the net). I would have to say mascred and dismembered the whole family, and raped her along with the corpes...

This tells me that there were more than 1 killer.
Also from her injuries- she was dismembered as well and left to die. Chances are, the whole family was treated this in way, or at least the females were raped and dismembered and left to die. The males were probably killed and gutted outright (except for the very young boys who were probably raped too). Remember- this was a family of 6; no way 1 person could do this on his own unless he shot everyone first- and Henrietta was not shot.

In the dismembering process, they probably tried to gut Henrietta, cutting her uterus. This would be introduce who knows what to its internals. If it was several stabbings, pieces could be missing. This leave the doctors with little options but to give her a prepubesent hysterectomy.

As unfortunate as it sounds, its what happened to her as the story goes, and I believe is the reason why she's so attached to Jose.
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Post by Nachtsider Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 0:22

Rape, while implied, was not explicitly mentioned, Elfen. But your scenario jibes very well with what I imagined the murder was like - even down to the theory that there was more than one perp.
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Post by Danjo3 Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 3:48

Nachtsider wrote:I still think Henrietta's uterus was removed by the killer of her family, here.
I never thought is was something as bizarre as having it cut out. I always assumed it had to be removed due to the injuries she sustained during the rape.
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Post by Nachtsider Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 4:53

Well, but I'm one for bizarre.
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Post by Wileama Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 6:44

Until the manga states a reason it's well open to interpretation. Both sides have good points. The people responsible for Henrietta's situation very well could have been twisted enough to do what's been suggested. However one could see the benefits from a more technical side of things. They are trying to build the perfect killer.
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Post by Guest Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 7:24

Nachtsider wrote:
3klicks wrote:??? What ???

You mean that litterally? ... I really can't imagine (and don't want to) how exactly and why he would do that.

With a very sharp knife, and for the purpose of satisfying his sick fetish for human organs - or maybe for use in a perverse ritual of sorts.

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I always thought it was removed because it was damaged in the night-long rape.

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Post by Tommygunner70 Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 9:09

*Goes to 4Chan and checks /B/*

I have seen worse. haha!
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Post by Guest Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 9:21

Tommygunner70 wrote:*Goes to 4Chan and checks /B/*

I have seen worse. haha!
It's /b/ newfag, and stay there a while, the freaks will come out, to post gore, dead cats, guts, and brains...

they will come...

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Post by Nachtsider Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 9:38

One's uterus doesn't get damaged during rape, unless the perpetrator's hung like a very, very well-endowed horse.
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Post by Guest Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 9:42

Maybe he was, and she was a small child.

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Post by LoC978 Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 10:06

I vote for the damage coming from the 'stabbed low in the gut and left for dead' option. Much more plausible, I think.
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Post by Guest Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 10:50

How in the world can we end up talking about henriettas uterus after talking about rico wearing a dress...

Oh and I have tons of some very twisted sites that make 4chan pale in comparison.

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Post by Guest Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 17:16

TinyTony wrote:How in the world can we end up talking about henriettas uterus after talking about rico wearing a dress...
It is Rule 25 and 26 of the internet in effect.

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Post by Sintendo Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 17:54

God dammit, ONE MORE OUTBREAK LIKE THIS CRAP AND YOU'RE ALL BANNED...

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Post by Nachtsider Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 18:09

Easy, Sin - step away from the bong.
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Post by Tommygunner70 Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 18:36

well... i see there is one guy who likes the Dong just as much as the Dutch.

Have a smoke on me pall!Bong hit
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Post by Angiegarde Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 18:58

Talk about strange....

What started out as a topic on why Rico doesn't wear dresses has somehow turned into a discussion about Henrietta's uterus...

Just so you guys know, I'm not really sure as to just how it was removed. What I do know is that anyone who would gleefully hurt a sweet girl like Henrietta must have no soul.....

Anyways, the line of thought that Jean doesn't want Rico to remind him too much of Enrica makes perfect sense. It's too bad though because Rico's cute in dresses.
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Post by Sintendo Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 19:35

Angiegarde wrote:
Just so you guys know, I'm not really sure as to just how it was removed. What I do know is that anyone who would gleefully hurt a sweet girl like Henrietta must have no soul.....

Hey, you never know...

Before being a cyborg, Henrietta might have been the biggest bitch this side of Venus, but :iiam:

Of course, nobody deserve's a rapin' and a stabbin', but... you know... there are times... just whistlin'
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Post by Sintendo Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 19:36

Tommygunner70 wrote:*Goes to 4Chan and checks /B/*

I have seen worse. haha!

It's recently been quite over there, but goddamn, they post the most disturbing pics once in a while... lol Summer of '04...
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Post by Nachtsider Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 19:38

Sintendo wrote:Of course, nobody deserve's a rapin' and a stabbin', but... you know... there are times... just whistlin'

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Post by Sintendo Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 19:48

Lol, Nacht, lay off the weed, will ya? dancin\\'
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Post by Nachtsider Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 19:57

I'm clean, Sin - never touched the stuff since I found religion.

Satanists say no to drugs.
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Post by Guest Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 19:59

How did you end up becoming religious, Nachtsider? It's one of those moments of finding direction in life (and I need that a lot lately), so I'm interested what type of experience gets things to click

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Post by Sintendo Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 21:11

Still... even I have no idea what the hell you just typed, Nacht...
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Post by Guest Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 21:14

Sintendo wrote:God dammit, ONE MORE OUTBREAK LIKE THIS CRAP AND YOU'RE ALL BANNED...

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Post by Sintendo Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 21:18

Awesome!

Edit: Awesome Avatar there.
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Post by Guest Tue 22 Jan 2008 - 22:10

nyoro~n

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Post by emperor Wed 23 Jan 2008 - 1:33

**Rico told me she interesting this topic**

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Post by Tommygunner70 Wed 23 Jan 2008 - 1:52

3klicks wrote:How did you end up becoming religious, Nachtsider? It's one of those moments of finding direction in life (and I need that a lot lately), so I'm interested what type of experience gets things to click

WTF? are we talking religions now?

excuse the hard reaction there, but with me living the te religious back water town of holland, things can become really unplesent really fast around here...
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