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Post by ElfenMagix Fri 28 Sep 2007 - 18:59

Though it should be in the 'cyborg secrets' forum, I've notived this in several characters in the anime doing this, so here I put it...

In the first (in the beginning) and in the last (at the end) and scattered through the anime if how Henrietta and some of the other cyborgs walk. This is also not limited to them either.

A normal person walks by placing foot at the heel, angle foot to the floor, pull body, angle foot up so that the heel rises and the toes stay on the floor. This is the Heel/Toe method that we plantigrades animals use (humans, monkeys, elephants, bears, and a few more animals walk this way)

In the Anime (fingering Henrietta since is so obvious in her!), she walks landing on her toes, then planting foot on ground, and finish the process normally. She also has a shorter gait when she walks, requiring twice as many more steps when walking.

Running seems normal.

Anyone else noticed this?
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Post by Nachtsider Fri 28 Sep 2007 - 19:10

I never did, Elfen - I'm one for detail, but not to that extent.

Still, it is an intriguing bit of data you've put out here. My guess is that whatever oddities crop up with regards to our heroines' walking are side effects of their cybernetic remodification.
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Post by ElfenMagix Fri 28 Sep 2007 - 19:15

Play that first 3 minutes after the intro of the first episode, where Jose & Henrietta walk in, and Jose's explaining what a fratello is. Even Jose walks the same way as she does here.
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Post by Nachtsider Fri 28 Sep 2007 - 19:55

Maybe he's been around her for too long.
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Post by LoC978 Fri 28 Sep 2007 - 20:45

They do walk very flat-footed. Big no-no in Kung-Fu. I blame it on the animators. They probably just didn't spend much time on the walking scenes. Easier to show a foot going straight down than the whole heel-toe motion.
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Post by ElfenMagix Fri 28 Sep 2007 - 21:51

At least you verified that I was not going crazy...
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Post by ElfenMagix Tue 9 Oct 2007 - 22:27

I think this model might have something to do about it...
http://www.sixgirls.org/~fernando/ft03.wmv
http://www.sixgirls.org/~fernando/ft_promo.wmv
Damn thing struts better than most women I know!
But its the same style as the Gs-Girls walk!
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Post by Nachtsider Tue 9 Oct 2007 - 22:38

Awkward though this robot's walk may seem, it actually strikes me as being a very commendable engineering achievement.
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Post by ElfenMagix Wed 10 Oct 2007 - 21:56

She was built by the Robo Garage guys in Japan, and as awkard as it may seem; its designer consulted with Professional female models to get her movements just so... :roll:

Makes you wonder what they were smoking when they did it this way.

Which leads to the other question- since the girls have this robot's walk, is there a connection between the two?
Like I said- Damn thing struts better than most females I know.
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Post by rusty-spring Sat 20 Oct 2007 - 14:49

To dig up an old discussion. I'm leaning towards what LoC said and chalk it up to lazy animators.

HOWEVER, to be sporting, and give a "setting-esque" answer I'll say that it's probably due to design. I mean, you'd think that people advanced enough to make cyborgs let alone cyborg assassins would want them to be as passable for human as possible, and thus walk right.

I dunno, maybe they don't put the heel down cause if they need to dodge/duck/dip/dive/and dodge (the 5 D's of Dodgeball - er assassination...) and that is all done from the ball and toes of your feet so they don't have to deal with this silly "rocking the foot forward" cause their feet are already past the heel first stage.

Of course that makes NO lick of sense. So...*shrugs*... Perhaps these cyborg designers are complete morons.
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Post by ElfenMagix Sat 20 Oct 2007 - 20:52

Or they been watching too many super models walking.
They tend to walk like that because they are in 8"+ heels all day, and once out of heels, walk funny.
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Post by boomer_gonz Mon 22 Oct 2007 - 3:27

Let me tell you what I say
When I'm dealing with the funky sidewalk
Let me show you how to walk
When I gotta do my funky walk
Let me tell you what I say
When I'm dealing with the funky sidewalk
I say sssssssss-sugar
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Post by Nachtsider Mon 22 Oct 2007 - 3:31

ElfenMagix wrote:Like I said- Damn thing struts better than most females I know.

In my opinion, women shouldn't strut unless they're in a beauty contest or on a fashion show catwalk. It attracts unwanted attention and lands them into trouble.
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Post by ElfenMagix Mon 22 Oct 2007 - 9:09

...or if they want to attract that kind of attention.
Too many ladies here in New York City (not the majority, but enough to notice that some do), do it and claim that they have to wear certain clothes and strut around for their ofice job. One even admitted to me that its a compettition of sorts to be the the offfice beauty queen.

As much as I may think it is true fromseeing it, it is also unneccessary.
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Post by emperor Wed 24 Oct 2007 - 0:59

the offfice beauty queen.

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Post by boomer_gonz Wed 24 Oct 2007 - 15:53

ElfenMagix wrote:...or if they want to attract that kind of attention.
Too many ladies here in New York City (not the majority, but enough to notice that some do), do it and claim that they have to wear certain clothes and strut around for their ofice job. One even admitted to me that its a compettition of sorts to be the the offfice beauty queen.

As much as I may think it is true fromseeing it, it is also unneccessary.

And woman say men are more competetive.

Men are just more up front with their competetiveness seeing no need for using deceitful tactics.

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Post by ElfenMagix Wed 24 Oct 2007 - 15:55

That is so true!
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Post by Nachtsider Wed 24 Oct 2007 - 19:09

Sounds like a generalization.
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Post by ElfenMagix Wed 24 Oct 2007 - 19:30

In general terms, thats the difference between men and women.
VIVA La Difference!
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Post by LoC978 Wed 24 Oct 2007 - 19:47

ElfenMagix wrote:In general terms, thats the difference between men and women.
A difference, anyway... here's another (paraphrased, can't even remember what book it was in):
Robert Jordan wrote:A woman will kill you for a transgression that a man could care less about, and she'll forgive you in an instant for something that a man would kill you over.
ElfenMagix wrote:VIVA La Difference!
Amen. Especially the physical differences. :twisted:
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Post by Nachtsider Wed 24 Oct 2007 - 20:35

Robert Jordan wrote:A woman will kill you for a transgression that a man could care less about, and she'll forgive you in an instant for something that a man would kill you over.

If you segregated genders according to statements like this one, I'd automatically qualify as female. Indeed, many people in online chatrooms have actually mistaken me for a woman, and continue to do so.

I don't bother correcting them anymore. It's highly amusing.
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Post by ElfenMagix Wed 24 Oct 2007 - 21:10

Nachtsider wrote:
Robert Jordan wrote:A woman will kill you for a transgression that a man could care less about, and she'll forgive you in an instant for something that a man would kill you over.

If you segregated genders according to statements like this one, I'd automatically qualify as female. Indeed, many people in online chatrooms have actually mistaken me for a woman, and continue to do so.

I don't bother correcting them anymore. It's highly amusing.
Funny... many think my (recently discovered) daughter is a male and on the 2 forums we are on, many think she's my sock puppet. But the Admins back me up on this- different IP Numbers = different people! Her and I are too much alike :face:
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Post by Nachtsider Wed 24 Oct 2007 - 21:21

'Recently discovered', Elfen...?
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Post by ElfenMagix Wed 24 Oct 2007 - 22:13

Its a long sorrid story involving an Ex-From-Hell.
I did not know she existed until 19 years later. We (the daughter and I) havd been making up for lost time. She's now 23.
The Ex-From-Hell do not approve of our relationship.
The Ex-From-Hell needs to lighten up on the hate!
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Post by Nachtsider Wed 24 Oct 2007 - 22:17

Yowch - sounds rough, Elfen. I'm sorry if I was intrusive, but wish you and your daughter the best all the same!
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Post by ElfenMagix Wed 24 Oct 2007 - 22:25

We're having a good time giving the Ex-From-Hell a hard time.
Me- for the hell she gave me.
Her- for a life time of lies...

What can I say, we think too much a like!
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Post by ElfenMagix Tue 6 Nov 2007 - 11:32

Back to the subject...

Amother of a friend of mine, who is a Nueroologist, stated that that kind of walk (landing on the toes and clomping on the heal like the cyborgs do in the anime) indicates a specific form of brain or spinal cord damage.

Interesting, that to think that the SWA/Section 2 doctors have everything else right but screw up on the wiring to the legs!
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Post by boomer_gonz Mon 12 Nov 2007 - 14:54

That would coincide with my assumption of the drug working to impaire certain brain function here.
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Post by ElfenMagix Mon 12 Nov 2007 - 23:29

I see you point, Boomer. But I cant help thinking that the doctors of the SWA designed Cadillacs cyborgs and ended up with Edsels...
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Post by emperor Tue 13 Nov 2007 - 5:03

ElfenMagix wrote:Back to the subject...

Amother of a friend of mine, who is a Nueroologist, stated that that kind of walk (landing on the toes and clomping on the heal like the cyborgs do in the anime) indicates a specific form of brain or spinal cord damage.

Interesting, that to think that the SWA/Section 2 doctors have everything else right but screw up on the wiring to the legs!

Interesting info!!
I see you point, Boomer. But I cant help thinking that the doctors of the SWA designed Cadillacs cyborgs and ended up with Edsels...

You try to said it was worse than the start right? ☀
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Post by ElfenMagix Tue 13 Nov 2007 - 19:28

emperor wrote:
ElfenMagix wrote:Back to the subject...

Amother of a friend of mine, who is a Nueroologist, stated that that kind of walk (landing on the toes and clomping on the heal like the cyborgs do in the anime) indicates a specific form of brain or spinal cord damage.

Interesting, that to think that the SWA/Section 2 doctors have everything else right but screw up on the wiring to the legs!

Interesting info!!


I see you point, Boomer. But I cant help thinking that the doctors of the SWA designed Cadillacs cyborgs and ended up with Edsels...



You try to said it was worse than the start right? ☀

Its like the NASA Scientists who built the Shuttles: 'They Designed a Cadillac, They Got A Chevy.'
Meanwhile in Soviet Russia, they built theirs better than the US Design, though by stealing the basic ideas, and then adding what they saw fit. Only through their own incompetence did they lost theirs through a stupid accident and are too ashamed to go back and get it!
http://www.k26.com/buran/Info/A_Comparison/a_comparison.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuttle_Buran
(Interesting, I cant seem to find the one webpage of how they lost one of their shuttles to Turkey, who now has it as an amusment park ride! Perhaps they bought it back from them? Man... how time flies!)
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