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Post by kadnax Sat 27 Aug 2011 - 4:12

I'm not sure if it is the right section to speak about that and I suppose most of you already know that, but i was so surprised when i discovered it : Real gunslinger girls exist in fact, well not realy cyborg… not yet… in the Moscow cadets boarding school n°9 for girl

This institution created in 2004 trains the military elite femele recruits and the future FSB agents, the russian intelligence agency.

The girls are between 10 and 16 years old. See the pict and, it is incredible. (I have a link too but on this forum i can't put an external link because i'am a new member ???).

In a way, i think there is a sort of ink between this reality and a story like gunslinger girl, even if it is not the same thing. It is realy surprising to see so young girls manipulating weapons.

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Post by Nachtsider Sat 27 Aug 2011 - 4:31

Nothing new for Russia. During the Second World War, hundreds of under-sixteen soldiers joined in the fight to repel the Nazis from the Motherland.
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Post by kadnax Sat 27 Aug 2011 - 4:43

I knew there were about 900 000 women in red army during WWII but i didn't know there were so young. Anyway this school exists for 7 years only and is unique.
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Post by Nachtsider Sat 27 Aug 2011 - 5:05

Oh, I'm not talking about women alone. I'm talking about boys and girls alike.

As for this school, I don't know how intensive it is. For all we know, it's little more than their version of ROTC.
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Post by Entropy Sat 27 Aug 2011 - 9:26

Nachtsider wrote:Oh, I'm not talking about women alone. I'm talking about boys and girls alike.

As for this school, I don't know how intensive it is. For all we know, it's little more than their version of ROTC.

Now I wasn't in ROTC but I know they didn't have AKs with detachable combat knives as bayonets.
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Post by Nachtsider Sat 27 Aug 2011 - 9:38

Note that I said 'their version' of ROTC.

Things are always more hardcore in Russia.
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Post by Officer_Charon Sat 27 Aug 2011 - 11:47

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Nachtsider wrote:Oh, I'm not talking about women alone. I'm talking about boys and girls alike.

As for this school, I don't know how intensive it is. For all we know, it's little more than their version of ROTC.

Now I wasn't in ROTC but I know they didn't have AKs with detachable combat knives as bayonets.

That _IS_ the AK-74's bayonet. *grins* The hole in there is SUPPOSED to allow it to attach to the scabbard, to act as a pair of shears. In practice, it doesn't work, however.

From the way they're looking at the weapons uneasily, this looks as though it might be simply a "show-and-tell" sort of thing, with weapons familiarization... I believe several cadet groups here do the same thing, in cooperation with both US and National Guard units.
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Post by Guest Sun 11 Sep 2011 - 12:56

Reminds me of the same concept of "child-soldier" from Africa. Except for the fact that there, they are obliged to fight :(

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Post by Odon Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 1:04

We had army cadets here in Australia for high school students, and we got to fire SLRs, so it's not that big a deal.



Now if those future FSB agents got taught spying, that would be cool...

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Post by Nagneto Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 4:43

I doubt they will commission adolescent girls into the field (at least for anything dangerous).
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Post by ProjectZ Sat 24 Sep 2011 - 7:38

Being a West Virginian, I can understand that these girls could just be going deer hunting, with AK-47s (I would have chosen an RPG-7, though). Run!
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Post by Lyndist Fri 30 Sep 2011 - 1:17

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Post by Godot Fri 30 Sep 2011 - 4:18

razschi wrote:Reminds me of the same concept of "child-soldier" from Africa. Except for the fact that there, they are obliged to fight :(

That's actually what I think too. To me, girls with guns means child soldier which is nothing but tragic, and this applies to GSG. Blame GSG and "Now and Then, Here and There" for wiring me so.
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Post by Nachtsider Fri 30 Sep 2011 - 4:24

I can't believe they're still using those sixties-era pith helmets in Vietnam.
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Post by Lyndist Fri 30 Sep 2011 - 8:34

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Post by Nachtsider Fri 30 Sep 2011 - 8:59

Ah, great. Those new ones look much better.
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Post by kadnax Sun 2 Oct 2011 - 13:33

Nachtsider wrote:Ah, great. Those new ones look much better.

It doesn't matter, the Viet Minh won all their wars at the end, and they had this helmet, so...

In war, determination is more important than material... even if it can help a lot to avoid too much useless losses... Very Happy
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Post by Nachtsider Sun 2 Oct 2011 - 13:55

If the US had bombed the hell out of their paddy fields, the war might have developed differently.
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Post by kadnax Sun 2 Oct 2011 - 14:09

Of course, but it was the "cold war" at this time. You know: possibility of nuclear war and things like that against Russia, China... So the US Air Force was supposed to be more carrefully i suppose ? Anyway, things have changed... But in a way, i don't think Talibans have this sort of material and they are still a problem today for all the countries involved in Afghanistan war. I just mean: in war, that 's not only a problem of material... There is something else... And we are far from the subject of this thread now Smile
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Post by Awinnell Sun 2 Oct 2011 - 15:35

Nachtsider wrote:If the US had bombed the hell out of their paddy fields, the war might have developed differently.



they kind of did that ,the US dropped more tonnage on Vietnam than all the participants of WWII combined used
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Post by Officer_Charon Sun 2 Oct 2011 - 15:49

Lyndist, thanks for the update... I admit, I don't know nearly as much about Vietnam as I might... I did go to school with a guy from Ho Chi Minh city, but I didn't talk to him very often.

It's always interesting to see how others live.
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Post by Nachtsider Sun 2 Oct 2011 - 15:56

Awinnell wrote:they kind of did that ,the US dropped more tonnage on Vietnam than all the participants of WWII combined used
On the paddy fields? You sure?
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Post by kadnax Sun 2 Oct 2011 - 16:22

Awinnell wrote:the US dropped more tonnage on Vietnam than all the participants of WWII combined used

Yes it is true. About 7 to 8 millions of tons of bombs during Viet Nam and about 3,4 millions of tons during WWII by the allies. It is twice more ! You never heard about "Rolling thunder operation" or "Linebacker operation" ?

But in fact, during Viet Nam war, the US Air Force couldn't do exactly what they wanted: there were restrictives political rules of engagments against some targets in North Vietnam (to avoid escalation with east and Russia i suppose ?). So they lost a lot in efficiency in their bombardments because of these restrictives political rules.
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Post by Awinnell Sun 2 Oct 2011 - 17:14

2 million tonnes of that fell on Laos,not sure how much Cambodia got,and yes, the paddy fields and jungle got bombed and napalmed and agent oranged and the paddy fields were sprayed with agent blue, there was no restriction on bombing greenery





As Rice is incredibly durable, and difficult to destroy with conventional explosives, and does not burn, the weapon of choice was herbicides. Agent Blue affects plants by causing them to dry out. As rice is highly dependent on water to live, using Agent Blue on these paddies can destroy an entire field and leave it unsuitable for further planting.



Approximately 1.25 million US gallons (4,700 m3) of Agent Blue were used in Vietnam during the war, destroying 500,000 acres (2,000 km2) of crops.
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Post by Nachtsider Mon 3 Oct 2011 - 17:50

Looks like they didn't do a good enough job, then. I don't remember reading about famine of any kind happening in the North.
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Post by Awinnell Tue 4 Oct 2011 - 8:16

Nachtsider wrote:Looks like they didn't do a good enough job, then. I don't remember reading about famine of any kind happening in the North.



probably because they were being supplied by the Soviets and Chinese
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Post by Lyndist Sun 16 Oct 2011 - 13:27

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Post by funkmachine Mon 14 Nov 2011 - 23:17

the Rainbow Herbicides did make a famine that increased the urban population in South Vietnam from 2.8 million people in 1958, to 8 million by 1971.

the use of the Rainbow Herbicides is still a big issue not only in U.S./Vietnamese government negotiations but South Koreans as it was used along the Korean Demilitarized Zone.

the reason that the Rainbow Herbicides have done so much harm was that the 2,4,5-Trichlorophenoxyacetic acid (2,4,5-T) used had contaminates from the manufacturing process mosty 2,3,7,8-tetrachlorodibenzo-p-dioxin (TCDD).


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Post by kamajii Sat 28 Jan 2012 - 17:04

There are girls that participate in military-patriotic club or Suvorov Military School(cadet corps) on the photo.

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Post by Danjo3 Sun 30 Sep 2012 - 6:11

Forgive me if these have already been posted (with the size of this forum, it’s impossible to keep track), but I think they’re awesome. More pics from the Moscow Female Cadet Boarding School no. 9.

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Caption: Young guns ... from left, pupil Tanya Rozhkova with fellow 11-year-olds Katya and Nastya

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Caption: Bang on ... the girls get some target practice with pistols

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Caption: At a lesson of the Fundamentals of Military Service the cadets study all types of guns. "I tell my parents what new guns I've learned about" says Lena Khristenko, 12.

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Despite all of this, they’re still allowed to be girls.

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For some reason, this one kind of reminded me of Triela.

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Post by valera_firefox Sat 4 Jan 2014 - 18:03

Didnt read the thread, but:
Guys, I live in Russia. We have some special military schools for children, even for women/girls, but there and not many more. They learn how to shoot, but not to kill people, actually. Very Happy
At school we have subject called OBJ. On lessons we learn about how to survive in different situations (floods, industrial disasters etc). Now I study in 10th form (it means ill graduate next year) and after winter holidays we will have lesson of stripping and assembly of AK-47. I'll have a chance to be a Gunslinger Girl, hehe Very Happy Well, actually, I have a good skill of shooting, but we won't shoot at lessons - it's prohibited Sad
Guys, these girls live as normal girls, I gurantee it. Don't worryf They WON'T FIGHT IF THERE IS WAR - no one allow them to do it (it is not USSR now, lol) These girls only can become policewomen or teachers in Military Schools Very Happy
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